Balance Patch 5.8 Available Now!

We’re thrilled to share that Age of Empires II HD Patch 5.8 is now in Open Beta, bringing a slew of much-anticipated balance changes geared toward competitive play.

Head over to Steam to try out the new balance fixes and join the discussion!


Here’s what’s new:

  • (Elite) Elephant Archers +2 archer armor vs anti-archer attacks (from -2 to 0).
  • (Elite) Elephant Archers -2 armor vs anti-cavalry archer attacks (from 0 to -2).
  • Eagle Scout training time in Castle Age +3s (from 32s to 35s), same as Eagle Warrior.
  • Incan free llama bonus is no longer tied to the scout; requires Town Center on nomad-style maps.
  • Vietnamese reveal enemy bonus no longer works in full tech tree games.
  • Malay infinite fish trap bonus no longer works in full tech tree games.
  • Khmer no building requirement bonus no longer works in full tech tree games.
  • Teuton team bonus no longer overrides Faith technology in post-imperial age start games.
  • Fixed the issue with siege workshops not receiving extra HP and armor in Imperial Age.
  • Fixed the issue causing the attack sound of Galleons to not play.
  • Fixed the issue with buildings placed on Desert, Cracked terrain not receiving a bonus damage when being attacked.
  • Hunting dogs effect no longer appears in games with starting ages later than Dark.
  • Villagers and towers do a reduced bonus damage vs walls before castle age.
  • Watch Towers, Guard Towers and Keeps cost +25w.
  • Siege Tower collision size changed from 0.50 to 0.45.
  • Coinage moved up to Castle Age, Banking moved up to Imperial age.
  • Couriers cost +200f +400g (from 400f 200g to 600f 600g).
  • Italian fishing ship cost bonus reduced to 15% (from 20%).
  • Khmer receive Arbalest upgrade.
  • Mayan farmers work at closer speed to the farmers of other civilizations.
  • (Elite) Arambai cost changed to 80 wood 60 gold (from 55w 60g).
  • (Elite) Karambit Warrior cost changed to 30f 15g (from 25f 10g).
  • Vietnamese archer HP bonus changed to immediate +20% HP to foot archers. (instead of the staggered effect).
  • (Elite) Rattan Archers +5 HP.
  • Korean faster building fortifications bonus is reduced for Towers(similar to how the Spanish building bonus is reduced for Wonders)
  • Mamelukes receive 5 less damage from Halberdiers.

Here’s how to join the beta:

  • Right-click on Age of Empires II HD in your Steam Library and seelct “Properties”.
  • Navigate to “Betas”.
  • In the dropdown menu, select “open-beta” and then click “Close”.
  • Wait for the game to update, then play!

To return to the main branch, follow the above steps and select “None” in step 3.

Discuss of 7 comments

  • prabu August 19, 2018


  • infinate-trex August 16, 2018

    so to play the beta i need to own the old version?

  • infinate-trex August 16, 2018
  • fantome-of-blue August 6, 2018

    With all the tweaks you've made, it's not even the same game you originally made. I think if the network issues could just be addressed, then everything else would be forgiven.

    Having said that, moving banking up to Imperial seems to make sense. I'm not so sure about the other tweaks.

  • ignt-x-ldubz August 4, 2018

    Korean tower nerf is undeserved. Nerfs to tower rushing should be done to all towers in general, for all civs. Perhaps much lower HP for watch tower in feudal... also, villagers inside get kicked out as soon as flames start (instead of when they get severe, for garrisoned buildings under attack), again only in feudal age

    • ignt-x-ldubz August 4, 2018

      It's a problem because Koreans don't have any real economy bonus, and this is a major nerf to their economy for defensive tower building

  • danicela August 3, 2018

    I hope AoE DE will get next update.

  • o1masternew August 3, 2018

    i got the game when i saw the picture of the guy shot out of a trebuchet but you cant do that in game whyyy???

    • ignt-x-ldubz August 4, 2018

      What are you talking about? that's the teutonic trebuchet. Of course you can do that in game. Otherwise Teutonic Knights would be useless because they're so slow